"And you know how when I pull my phone out, that means I kinda swerve? Well there was this lady there in the other lane, and she's all waving at me, like --" (and he demonstrates someone making a very forceful wave that means 'GET THE HELL IN YOUR LANE ASSHOLE') "-- and so I wave back at her, you know, like 'Hello! PHONE!' ..." (and he gestures with his phone).
(All of this, by the way, is spoken in that semi-falsetto with valley-girlish mannerisms that some gay men sometimes effect. This is his normal mode of speech in 9 conversations out of 10, and the 10th is technical.)
And then the conversation went on about REALLY, how are you SUPPOSED to drive when you're using the phone, and he confessed to driving with his knees while texting. Which last is explicitly illegal in Arizona.
So. Never.